MyDD :: McCain slanders Chelsea, gets votes from Clinton supporters?!?!

McCain slanders Chelsea, gets votes from Clinton supporters?!?!

by catchaz, Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:00:19 PM EST

Oh, yeah! what a treat to come to a Democratic site and find all these so-called feminists professing their desire to vote for John McCain! what a brilliant, astute, feminist choice to make!

So, for all those McCain supporters, here's John McCain's wonderful feminist view of women and children.

This is YOUR new candidate in action:

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because Janet Reno is her father."

OUCH! that really hurt me to type that. it is one of the most offensive things i have ever read. he's attacking a CHILD, a LITTLE GIRL, as ugly. and he is attacking the female attorney general of the US based on her appearance.

My sincere apologies to EVERYONE for posting such a hideous and offensive line. i have never done it before, i hope i will never do it again. but it is necessary to try to jolt some of the more insane people on this site back to reality. or more likely to point out to those who may be tempted to follow them just how deranged they have become.

THIS IS THE HIDEOUS MAN YOU ARE NOW SUPPORTING, IN THE NAME OF FEMINISM!

anyone who votes for this man, who advocates voting for this man, or who advocates his election, is a traitor to Chelsea Clinton, a traitor to the Democratic party, and a traitor to the ideals Hillary Clinton espouses. and if you call yourself a feminist while doing it you are a liar and a traitor to feminism.

i know i should have sympathy, self-hatred is a hideous and destructive thing. but since they are now supporting a man who attacks LITTLE GIRLS AS BEING UGLY, they've lost all claim to any sympathy.

McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
and you're voting for him?

McCain called a LITTLE GIRL ugly!
and you're voting for him?
then you are as bad as he is...

it is WAY past time to remove ReThug goons and trolls from this site.

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Tags: racism, Republicans, general election, misogyny, self-hatred (all tags)

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Re: Democratic women for McCain! (2.00 / 4)

Not only did he attack a little girl, but he apparently has awful taste. Chelsea is quite attractive. Not the least of which is because she's obviously strong and intelligent.

by the mollusk on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:03:15 PM EST

She was a bit of a duckling back then (2.00 / 3)

I always liked her, but I have to admit that she was as awkward as most teenagers back in those days.

Now she's a beautiful woman who is also quite intelligent and savvy, which I think was the best response to that particular crass joke.

I hope she campaigns for Obama with her parents. She's been a champ in a very nasty campaign battle.

In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

by Dracomicron on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:09:04 PM EST
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Re: Democratic women for McCain! (2.00 / 4)

He also called his own wife a c%^t. ANd this is the man you want nominating a successor to the seat of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the Thurgood Marshall of the women's movement?

The future is unwritten

by Strummerson on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:04:03 PM EST

Re: Democratic women for McCain! (2.00 / 5)

Just as bad if not worse, he insulted Reno with that little quip. Janet Reno was AG of the US, an accomplished, intelligent woman who broke a lot of glass ceilings to get to that position, not unlike, dare I say, Hillary Clinton.

So if you're a Hillary supporter who would actually consider not supporting the Dem nominee regardless, I suggest you take a hard look at this man who judges women on looks instead of accomplishments.

Nos causidicus Obama , ergo nos non suadeo

by rb608 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:08:29 PM EST

Re: Democratic women for McCain! (1.00 / 6)

Well at least McCain's not part of a party that treats the first viable woman for president like a leftover meal and throws her down the garbage disposal. And gives the nomination to a rookie GQ looking inexperienced man with a great smile.

by karajan72 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:08:59 PM EST

Re: Democratic women for McCain! (2.00 / 2)

Yes, because "the party" voted against her in contest after contest. Because "the party" lost a huge 100-superdelegate advantage. Because the party mismanaged her finances and left her heavily in debt.

It was "the party" that did it.

by Reeves on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:11:32 PM EST
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Yeah. (2.00 / 2)

McCain's merely part of a party that has yet to even consider nominating a woman to be a presidential or vice presidential nominee. They're nowhere near ready to even start throwing them down the garbage disposal yet.

Nobody "gave" the nomination to Obama. He earned it. Further, Clinton has seen every normal courtesy from the party... and more.

In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

by Dracomicron on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:11:52 PM EST
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I don't remember putting (2.00 / 3)

Hillary down my garbage disposal. In fact I was never against Hillary. Mostly I was for Edwards because I am a populist.

I simply do not understand why not electing Hillary is somehow equivalent to doing some sort of physical violence to her. In a campaign, the person who gets the most delegates wins, it isn't an attack, it is the facts. You don't have to be against one person to be for someone else. When I was for Edwards I wasn't against anybody...I just wanted my candidate, the populist candidate to win.

accepting McLettuce is like being 9 years old and forced to eat your own cooking

by Sychotic1 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:12:17 PM EST
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Re: I don't remember putting (2.00 / 2)

The voters have thwarted Hillary's destiny. This is akin to violence on her, since the nomination was always her. She owned it. Obama has stolen the nomination from it's rightful owner.

by Terrance Manley on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:14:03 PM EST
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Don't joke (2.00 / 2)

I've actually heard people say that for real.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:15:05 PM EST
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Re: Democratic women for McCain! (2.00 / 2)

Yep. He's just another affirmative action hire, right?

God that line worked great when I was knocking doors in West Virginia!

by Terrance Manley on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:13:06 PM EST
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No (2.00 / 1)

he's just part of the party that treats EVERY WOMAN like a leftover meal and throws them down the garbage disposal.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:14:21 PM EST
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Cut the crap (2.00 / 3)

and stop making all of us women seem like foot-stomping victims of male domination. If you feel like a "leftover meal that has been thrown down the garbage disposal" because your candidate was inept at running a presidential campaign then you have serious issues that need to be addressed in the privacy of an air conditioned office that has PhD on the door.

"Beauty, more than bitterness, makes the heart break." Sara Teasdale

by april34fff on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:12:11 PM EST
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Re: Cut the crap (2.00 / 1)

Most of them get their phsychological help down at the fillin station.Air conditioned office LOL "where you from anywho? You slay me.

John McCain: Everyones nowhere man

by johnny sexton on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:17:26 PM EST
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Re: Cut the crap (none / 0)

uh... I think nrafter was referring to McCain and the Republicans.

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by mistersite on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:05:54 PM EST
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Re: Democratic women for McCain! (2.00 / 1)

it would be disturbing if you actually believed this.

by the mollusk on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:17:02 PM EST
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Re: Democratic women for McCain! (2.00 / 2)

"GQ looking" is a pretty good dog whistle phrase.

Although I would happily pull the lever for Hillary if she had won, she lost fair and square. Being the first viable woman for president doesn't mean she's entitled to a free pass. Becoming president wouldn't really mean anything if it did.

You need to accept that there are millions of people who disagree with you, and we can't all be superficial morons who just want some "GQ looking" man in office.

by Brannon on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:17:25 PM EST
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I vote present! (1.00 / 3)

That is not a vote for McCain.

You may not agree with What I say but don't forget I am a Democrat

by indydem99 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:10:58 PM EST

Re: I vote present! (2.00 / 3)

It is a chickenshit way to avoid admitting that you are helping McCain get elected. I can see why you like the idea.

Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius

by Blue Neponset on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:15:41 PM EST
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I'm glad you see the difference (2.00 / 2)

Voting "present" can be part of an overall strategy; if you used your general election vote to vote for, say, a write-in or third party candidate, you could probably fool yourself into thinking that you're establishing a protest vote strategy meant to establish a minimum level of votes for the Green party or whatnot to recieve federal funds for their next campaign, but what you're really doing is voting on the strategy of helping McCain win while saying that at least you didn't vote for him.

So the nuance that you're grasping is excellent; it's just foolish.

In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

by Dracomicron on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:16:11 PM EST
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Re: I vote present! (2.00 / 1)

If I remember correctly, present votes in Illinois counted as "no" for all practical purposes.

You're welcome to vote in any way that will actually count as a vote for Obama. "Present" isn't actually one of them in the GE, though.

by Aris Katsaris on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:19:24 PM EST
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Re: I vote present! (2.00 / 2)

Other way around. It's really more of a "Yes, However..." vote, used strategically by legislators to enhance a bill before it goes to the Governor.

As an IL resident the "present" smear against Obama is one of my least favorites (albeit not a terribly effective one) as it shows a complete lack of understanding of the Illinois legislature.

by Homebrewer on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:57:33 PM EST
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but, (2.00 / 2)

mccain has so much experience. way more than obama or hillary or even methuselah....and experience matters!

don't be sold on someone who could inspire the masses with "words"......words suck........don't believe me? just take a look at how i abuse the language.....see?

mccain/lieberman 08!!!

by citizendave on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:14:33 PM EST

Re: Democratic women for McCain! (2.00 / 3)

My sister and neice were for Hillary, but they admitted to me yesterday that if Obama is the nominee, he will get their votes. Any democrat is better than McBush, and if anyone doesn't agree than look back to the last 8 years and if that is what you loved than by all means vote for McBush.

by Spanky on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:18:28 PM EST

I hesitate to even bring it up, but... (2.00 / 1)

McCain's documented infidelity and treatment of women like tools outmatches a certain large dog we know.

I don't think personal lives should be a campaign issue, but I think it bears note if people are looking at him as an alternative for feminists. This fella holds women in very, very low regard.

In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

by Dracomicron on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:22:17 PM EST

does anyone hear an echo? (2.00 / 1)

catchaz - your diary is well-intended.

but up until the time i hit post on this comment - there is not one HRC supporter caring to comment here. and alternatively there is a sudden rush of BO supporters (and a lot of new ones) posting here and spamming diaries with a lot of negativity. your diary assumes that BO is the winner, but maybe it would be a good idea to wait for a winner to be decided before starting this dialogue?

"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg

by canadian gal on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:25:22 PM EST

Re: does anyone hear an echo? (2.00 / 2)

Negativity? Have you glanced at the Wreck List lately?

by rfahey22 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:30:44 PM EST
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i'll wait if they do (2.00 / 2)

thank you very much canadian gal for your thoughtful repsonse. i sincerely appreciate it. there is not alot of reasoned responses between supporters of different candidates (i'm guilty here as well) so your response was very welcomed.

but i write this diary now because NOW is when this site is full of Clinton supporters saying they are going to vote for McCain. if they stop saying it, i'll stop trying to disuade them from it.

honestly, i can agree that IF you think Obama is sexist you should not vote for him. (i obviously don't think he's sexist, or i wouldn't vote for him.) but going over to vote for McCain, who slandered a CHILD, a female child, and the female attorney general of the United States, is just going WAY to far.

the time to rise has been engaged.

by catchaz on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:33:51 PM EST
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Re: i'll wait if they do (2.00 / 5)

This site is not full of Clinton supporters who are going to vote for McCain. There are sites like that, but this isn't one of them. Most of us have said we will vote for the Democrat, period. I think this is much ado about nothing.

by JustJennifer on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:41:24 PM EST
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thanks, i hope you're right (2.00 / 1)

thanks JustJennifer for your hopeful thoughts.

i hope you are right. i admit to letting to very loud voices that say they'll vote McCain drown out the others who aren't so loud about their decision.

i honestly can't imagine anyone who likes hillary Clinton could vote for someone who called her only child ugly. so maybe they won't.

the time to rise has been engaged.

by catchaz on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:46:33 PM EST
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Re: does anyone hear an echo? (2.00 / 1)

Why do you refer to McCain as the winner of the Republican primary?

by Brannon on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:39:49 PM EST
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Re: does anyone hear an echo? (none / 0)

Because McCain has already won over half of the republican delegates?

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Ernst on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:21:05 PM EST
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Re: does anyone hear an echo? (2.00 / 1)

But what if all those delegates change their mind at the convention?

by Brannon on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:32:22 PM EST
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Re: does anyone hear an echo? (2.00 / 1)

He'd eat them, probably.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Ernst on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:46:28 PM EST
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Re: does anyone hear an echo? (2.00 / 1)

I think you are wrong...Many HRC supporters have already issued a statement that "if Obama wins I will vote for McCain". He is responding to said supporters...Many Clinton supporters cite the polls regarding this scenario, (IF HRC doesn't win I will vote for McCain ie Kyles) the diarist has every right to inspect McAncient's past with women and his treatment of them...

I can see Lake Erie from where I live, so can I please run the Navy?

by hootie4170 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:57:54 PM EST
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Re: does anyone hear an echo? (none / 0)

sorry ot, but the pens won!

"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg

by canadian gal on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:23:40 PM EST
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Re: does anyone hear an echo? (none / 0)

On to taking the Stanley Cup to Pennsylvania....

I can see Lake Erie from where I live, so can I please run the Navy?

by hootie4170 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:44:31 PM EST
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I find the gay-baiting (2.00 / 1)

even more offensive than the "ugly" comment.

by JJE on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:29:31 PM EST

yes, sorry i didn't address that (none / 0)

it was in an earlier draft but i somehow cut it out.

the time to rise has been engaged.

by catchaz on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:34:42 PM EST
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Actually it was far worse. He called her ugly (2.00 / 1)

Janet Reno a man and Hillary an adultress.

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:40:14 PM EST

Re: Actually it was far worse. He called her ugly (2.00 / 1)

Yep. A triumvarite of Republican hate. That's why his audience thought it was so funny.

John McCain vows to overturn Roe

by soccerandpolitics on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:05:55 PM EST
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Re: Actually it was far worse. He called her ugly (2.00 / 1)

Yeah pretty scummy. I'd have punched him in the mouth if I was Bill.

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:16:47 PM EST
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I Remember in 1993 (2.00 / 2)

Republicans all over talk radio saying that Chelsea Clinton was the ugliest girl they had ever seen since Amy Carter.

Dizzy Zzyzzy

by Zzyzzy on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:04:46 PM EST

Yes, that was a disgusting comment if true (none / 0)

But it was made at the time when Clinton hatred was rampant within the Republican party. Since that time, McCain has grown to rather like and respect Hillary and I'm sure he deeply regrets joining the cruel fun of that time if he made that remark.

by lombard on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:06:57 PM EST

do you know if he apologized? (none / 0)

surely he has, but i don't remember it specifically.

anyone know?

the time to rise has been engaged.

by catchaz on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:11:11 PM EST
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I don't know (none / 0)

I've only heard this remark reported by internet posters second hand.

by lombard on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:16:51 PM EST
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P.S. (2.00 / 2)

I think remarks such as these are reprehensible and candidate's children should be off limits unless they do something that merits criticism. Husbands or Wives (if they are like Hillary or Michelle Obama) aren't necessarily off limits because they do step in it once in awhile.

That is why I have been filled with disgust on some on the left jeer at Laura or Jenna Bush with the scorn that has normally been the trademark of freepers. Laura has conducted herself relatively well as a first lady and has stayed relatively clear of controversy and Jenna seems to be a lovely and genuinely likeable and nice young woman.

by lombard on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:22:42 PM EST
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Re: P.S. VERY good point (2.00 / 1)

thank you for mentioning that. it is extremely scummy. we cannot act like the ReThugs!

the time to rise has been engaged.

by catchaz on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:49:13 PM EST
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Re: Yes, that was a disgusting comment if true (2.00 / 1)

I believe the "bitch" comment was made recently no?

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:17:20 PM EST
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Re: Yes, that was a disgusting comment if true (2.00 / 1)

At a rally of his. Didn't say it himself, but called it a good question.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Ernst on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:23:11 PM EST
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Re: Yes, that was a disgusting comment if true (2.00 / 1)

Oh yes. I know he didn't say it. Sorry for it sounding like he said it.

He would think it was a good question rather than terribly offensive after what he reportedly called his wife.

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:25:23 PM EST
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Re: Yes, that was a disgusting comment if true (2.00 / 1)

He got a long history of a having an explosive temper and profanity laden tirades.

I'm not surprised his wife had to endure some of his episodes.

A lot of powerful men have explosive tempers, and by most of them it isn't pretty but doesn't effect their long term judgment and relationships. As long as the good they do outshines that I don't mind.

But McCain is supposed to far worse then average and a bearer of vindictive grudges for small (and imagined) slights. Not somebody who I'd trust as a commander in chief.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Ernst on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:44:49 PM EST
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Re: Yes, that was a disgusting comment if true (2.00 / 1)

He seems like Bush with roid rage.

John McCain on social security.

by heresjohnny on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:46:34 PM EST
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